Beginnings. Genesis 1-4. Transliteration series II. Human religion: Tale, text, interpretation, conflict, repeat.*
Out of a Textual Whole, or Available Fragments,
What Do Cultures Then Elect to Emphasize.
Process: Tale, text, interpretation, conflict.
Purpose: To better enable a comparison of oldest texts and their interpretations and highlight major differences that steer theologies -- and cultures -- this way or that. Note the ambiguities, grammatical difficulties, choices of meanings adopted, and ask if those choices reflect a pre-theology of the recorder, or other purpose. How to discern the idea of "revelation" or "divine will" in this view or that. Can we? How to discern when, or if, institutions, and individual religious leaders and their accretions to text (dogma), are or are not legitimately to be called "divinely inspired" and so to be followed. What of mere political interest in sway, using religious angles. Next project: revert to Paleo-Hebrew, see those forms at Hebrewoldtestament.com
- Mp - masculine plural, role of gendering of nouns on gender of specific individual within the class, for example. S - a plural. Capital means a Hebrew word. Others added by MT, conjunctives, for example. Read the introduction to MT for other conventions, tenses, symbols. Our use of them is erratic; our ignorance shows. Why is Exist capitalized for others, and not for YHWH He exists, for example.
1:1-1:10 in Summit he did Fatten Elohim Powers At the Sky and At the Land and the Land she had exist Confusion and Unfilled and Darkness Upon Faces Deep sea and Wind Elohiym Powers much Fluttering fs upon Faces the Water s2 and he will Say Elohiym Powers he will Exist Light and he will Exist Light and he will See Elohiym Powers At the Light Given that Functional and he will make Separate Elohiym Powers Between the Light and Between the Darkness and he will Call out Elohiym Powers to Light Day and to Darkness he did Call our Night and he will Exist Evening and he will Exist Morning Day Unit and he will Say Elohiym Powers he will Exist Sheet in Midst the Waters2 and he will Exist make Separate-ing Between Water s2 to Water s2 and he will Do Elohiym Powers At the Sheet and he will make Separate Between the Water s2 Which from Under to Sheet and Between the Water s2 Which from Upon to sheet and he will exist So and he will Call out Elohiym Powers to Sheet Sky s2 and he will Exist Evening and he will ExistMorning Day Second and he will Say Elohiym Powers he will be Bound up the Water s2 from Under the Sky s2 To Place Unit and she be See the Dry ground and he will Exist So
1:10 and he will Call out Elohiym Powers to Dry ground Land and to Collection the Water he did Call out Seas and he will See Elohiym Powers Given that Functional and he will Say Elohiym Powers she will make Sprout the Land Grass Herb make Sowing ms Seed TreeProduce Doing ms Produce to Kind him Which Seed him in him Upon the Land and he will Exist So and she will make Go out the Land Grass Herb make Sowing ms Seed to Kind him and Tree Doing ms Produce Which Seed him in him to Kind him and he will See Elohiym Powers Given that Functional and he will Exist Evening and he will Exist Morning Day Third and he will Say Elohiym Powers he will Exist Luminarys in Sheet the Sky s2 to make Separate Between the Day and Between the Night and they did Exist to Signs and to Appointeds and to Days and Years and they did Exist to Luminarys in Sheet the Sky s2 to make Glow Upon the Land and to Regulate in Day and in Night and to make Separate Between the Light and Between the Darkness and he will See Elohiym Powers Given that Functional and he will Exist Evening and he will Exist Morning Day Fourth
1:20 and he will Say Elohiym Powers they m will Swarm the Water s2 Swarmer Being Life and Flyer he will much Fly Upon the Land Upon Faces Sheet the Sky s2 and he will Fatten Elohiym Powers At the Taniyns the Magnificents and At All Being the Life the Treading fs Which they m did Swarm the Water s2 to Kind them m and At all Flyer Wing to Kind him and he will See Elohiym Powers Given that Functional and he will much Kneel At them m Elohiym Powers to Say !mp Reproduce and !mp Increase and !mp Fill at the Water s2 in the Seas and the Flyer he did Increase in the Land and he will Exist Evening and he will Exist Morning Day Fifth and he will Say Elohiym Powers she will make Go out the Land Being Life to Kind her Beast and Treader and Life him Land to Kind her and he will Exist So and he will Do Elohiym Powers At Life the Land to Kind her and At the Beast to Kind her and At All Treader the Ground to Kind him and he will See Elohiym Powers Given that Functional and he will Say Elohiym Powers we will Do Human in Image us like Likeness us and he did Rule in Swimmer the Seas and in Flyer the Sky s2 and in Beast and in all the Land and in All the Treader the Treading ms Upon the Land and he will Fatten Elohiym Powers At the Human in Image him in Image Elohiym Powers he did Fatten At him Male and Female and he will Fatten At them m and he will much Kneel At them m Elohiym Powers and he will Say to them m Elohiym Powers !mp Reproduce and !mp Increase and !mp Fill At the Land and !mp Subdue her and !mp Rule in Swimmer the Seas and in Flyer the Sky s2 and in All Life the Treading fs Upon the Land and he will Say Elohiym Powers Look I did Give to you mp At All Herb Sowing ms Seed Which Upon Faces All the Land and At All the Tree Which in him Produce Tree Sowing ms Seed to you mp he will Exist to Food
1:30 and to All Life the Land and to All Flyer the Sky s2 and to All Treading ms Upon the Land Which in him Being Life At All Green Herb to Food and he will Exist So and he will See Elohiym Powers At All Which he did Do and Look Functional Many and he will Exist Evening and he will Exist Morning Day the Sixth
2:1 and they m will be Finish the Sky s2 and the Land and All Army them m and he will Finish Elohiym Powers in the Day the Seventh Occupation him Which he did Do and he will Cease in the Day the Seventh from All Occupation him Which he did Do and he will much Kneel Elohiym Powers At Day the Seventh and he will Set apart At him Given that in him he did Cease from All Occupation him Which he did Fatten Elohiym to Do
SECOND CREATION STORY
2:4 These Birthings Sky s2 and the Land in be Fatten them m in Day Do YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers Land and Sky s2 and All Shrub the Field Before he will Exist in the Land and All Herb the Field Before he will Spring up Given that Not he did make Precipitate YHWH He exists [sic] Elohiym Powers Upon the Land and Human Without to Serve At the Ground and Mist he will Go up From the Land and he did make Drink At Faces the Ground and he will Mold YHWY He exists Elohiym Powers At the Human Powder From the Ground and he will Exhale in Nose s2 him Breath Life s and he will Exist [sic] the Human to Being Life and he will Plant YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers Garden in Eden Pleasure from East and he will Set in place There At the Human Which he did Mold and he will make Spring up YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers From the Ground All Tree be Craving ms to Appearance and Functional to Nourishment and Tree the Life s in Midst the Garden and Tree the Discernment Functional and Dysfunctional
2:10 and River outgoing ms from Eden Pleasure to make Drink At The Garden and from There he will be Divide apart and he did Exist to Four Head s Title The Unit Pishon Scatter He the Go arounding ms At All Land the Hwawilah Twisting Which There the Gold and Gold the Land the She Functional There the Amber and Stone the Shoham and Title the River the Second Giyhhon Burst He the Go arounding ms At All Land Kush Black and Title the River the Third Hhideqel Rapid He the Walking ms Eastward Ashur Step and the River the Fourth He Perat Break and he will Take YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers At the Human and he will make Deposit him in Garden Eden Pleasure to Serve her and to Guard her and he will much Direct YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers Upon the Human to Say from All Tree the Garden Eat you ms will Eat and from Tree the Discernment Functional and Dysfunctional Not you ms will Eat From him Given that in Day Eat you ms From him Die you ms will Die and he will Say YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers Not Functional Exist the Human to Separated thing him i will Do to him Helper like Opposite him and he will Mold YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers From the Ground All Life the Field and At All Flyer the Sky s2 and he will make Come To the Human to See what he will Call out to him and All Which he will Call out to him the Human Being Life He Title him
2.20 and he will Call out the Human Title s to All the Beast and to Flyer the Sky s2 and to All Life the Field and to Human Not he did Find Helper like Opposite him and he will make Fall YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers Trance Upon the Human and he will Sleep and he will Take Unit from Rib s him and he will Shut Flesh Under her [sic] and he will Build YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers At the Rib Which he did Take From the Human to Woman and he will make Come her To the Human and he will Say the Human This the Stroke of time Bone from Bone s me and Flesh from Flesh me to This he will be Call out Woman Given that from Man she did much be Take This Upon So he will leave Man at Father him and At Mother him and he did Adhere in Woman him and they did Exist to Flesh Unit and they will Exist Two them m Nude s the Human and Woman him and Not they m will self-Ashamed
3.1 and the Serpent he had Exist Subtle from all Life the Field Which he did Do YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers and he will Say To the Woman Moreover Given that he did Say Elohiym Powers Not you will Eat from all Tree the Garden and she will Say the Woman to the Serpent from Produce Tree the Garden we will Eat and from Produce thte Tree Which in Midst the Garden he did Say Elohiym Powers Not you will Eat From him and Not you mp will Touch in him Otherwise you mp will Die and he will say the Serpent To the Woman Not Die you mp will die Given that Knowing ms Elohiym Powers Given that in Day Eat you mp From him and they f did be Open up Eye s2 and you mp did Exist like Elohiym Powers Knowing mp Functional and Dysfunctional and she will See the Woman Given that Functional the Tree to Nourishment and Given that Yearning He to Eye s2 and be Crave-ing ms the Tree to make Calculate and she will Take from Produce him and she will Eat and she will Give Also to Man her With her and he will Eat and they f will be Open up Eye s2 Two them m and they m will Sew together Leaf Fig and they m will Do to them m Loin covering s and they will Hear At Voice YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers self-Walking in Garden to Wind the Day and he will self-Withdraw the Human and Woman him from Face s YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers in Midst Tree the Garden and he will Call out YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers To the Human and he will Say to him Where you ms
3.10 and he will Say at Voice you ms i did Hear in Garden and i will Fear Given that Naked I and i will Withdraw and he will Say Who he did make Be face to face to you ms Given that Naked You ms the From the Tree Which i did much Direct you ms to Except Eat from him you ms will Eat and he will Say the Human the Woman Which you ms did Give By me She she did Give to me From the Tree and I will Eat and he will Say YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers to Woman What This you fs did Do and she will Say the Woman the Serpent he had make Deceive me and I will eat and he will Say YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers to the Serpent Given that you mp did Do This Spit upon-ed ms You from All the Beast and from All Life the Field Upon Belly you ms will Walk and Powder you ms will Eat All Day s Life s you ms and Histility i did Set down Between you ms and Between the Woman and Between Seed you ms and Between Seed her He he will Fall upon you ms Head and You ms you ms will Fall upon him Heel To the Woman he did Say make increase i will make Increase Hardship you fs and Pregnancy you fs in Distressing pain you fs will Bring forth Son s and To Man you fs Following you fs and he will Regulate in you fs and to Human he did Say Given that you did Hear to Voice Woman you ms and you ms will Eat From the Tree which i did much Direct you ms to Say Not you ms will Eat From him Spit upon-ed the Ground On account of you ms in Hardship you ms you ms will Eat her All Day s Life s you ms and Bramble and Thistle she will make Spring up to you fs and you ms did Eat At Herb the Field in Sweat Nose s you ms you ms will Eat Bread Until Turn back you ms To the Ground Given that From her you ms did be Take Given that Powder You ms and To Powder you ms will Turn back
3:20 and he will Call out Human Title Woman him Hwawah Living Given that she did Exist Mother All Life and he will Do YHWH He exists Elohiym Powers to Human and to Woman him Tunic s Skin and he will Clothe themm and he will Say YHWH He Exists Elohiym Powers Though the Human he had Exist like Unit Fromj us to Discernment Funcitional and Dysfunctional and Now Otherwise he will Send Hand him and he did Take Also from Tree the Life s and he did Eat and he did Live to Distant time and he will Send him YHWH He Exists Elohiym Powers from Garden Eden Pleasure to Serve At the Ground Which he did be Take from There and he will Cast out At the Human and he will Dwell from East to Garden Eden Pleasure at Keruv Sword and at Blazing the Sword the Self Overturning fs to Guard At Road Tree the Life s
4:1 and the Human he had Know At Hhawah Living Woman him and she will Conceive and she will Bring forth at Qayin Acquired and she will Say i did Purchase Man At YHWH He exists and she did make Add to Bring forth At Brother him At Hevel Empty and he will Exist Hevel Empty Feeding ms Flocks and Qayin Acquired he did Exist Serve-ing ms Ground and he will Exist from Conclusion Day s and he will make Come Qayin Acquired from Produce the Ground Donation to YHWH He exists and Hevel Empty he had make Come Also He from Firstborn fekale s Flocks him and from Fat them f and he will Look with respect YHWH He exists to Hevel Empty and To Donation him and to Qayin Acquirred and to Donation him Not he did look with respect and he will Flare up to Qayin Acquired Many and they m will Fall face s him and he will Sasy YHWH He exists to Qayin Acquired to What he did Flare up to you fs and to What did they Fall Face s you ms ?Not If you ms will make Do well Lift up and If Not you ms will make Do well to Opening Error Stretch outing ms and To you ms Following him and You ms
you ms will Regulate in him and he will Say Qayin Acquired to Hevel Empty Brother him and he will Exist in Exist them m in Field and he will Rise Qayin Acquired To Hevel Empty Brother him and he will Kill him and he will Say YHWH He exists to Qayin Acquired Where Hevel Empty Brother you ms and he will Say Not i will Know ? Guarding ms Brother me I
4:10 and he will Say What you ms did Do Voice Blood s Brother you ms Cry outing mp To me From the Ground and now Spit upon-ed ms You ms From the Ground Which she did Part At Mouth her to Take At Blood s Brother you ms from Hand you ms Given that you ms will Serve At the Ground Not she will make Add Give Strength her to you fs Stagger-ing ms and Nod-ing ms you ms will Exist in the Land and he will Say Qayin Acquired To YHWH He exists Magnificent Iniquity me from Lift up Though you ms did much Cast out At me the Day from Upon Face s the Ground and from Face s you ms i will be Hide and i did Exist Stagger-ing ms and Nod-ing ms in the Land and he did Exist All Finding ms me he will Kill me and he will Say to him YHWH He exists to So All Kill-ing ms Qayin Acquired Seventh time s2 he will make be Avenge and he will Set in place YHWH He exists to Qayin Acquired Sign to Except make Hit At him All Finding ms him and he will Go out Qayin Acquired from to Face s YHWH He exists and he will Settle in Land Nod Wander Eastward Eden Pleasure and he will Know Qayin Acquired At Woman him and she will Conceive and she will Bring forth At Hhanokh Dedicated and he will Exist Build-ing ms City and he will Call out Title the City like Title Son him Hhanokh and he will be Bring forth to Hhanokh Dedicated At Irad Wild donkey and Irad Wild donkey he had Bring forth At Mehhuyael Who proclaims El and Mehhuyael Who proclaims El he had Bring forth At Metushael His death asks and Metushael His death asks he had Bring forth at Lamekh Powerful and he will Take to him Lamekh Powerful Two Woman s Title the Unit Adah Ornament and Title the Second Tsilah Shadow
4:20 and she will Bring forth Adah Ornament at Yaval Watercourse He he did Exist Father of Settle-ing-ms Tent and Livestock and Title Brother him Yuval Creek He he did Exist Father of All Seize hold-ing ms Harp and Reed-pipes and Tsilah Shadow Also She she had Bring forth at Ruval-Qayin Flow of acquiring Sharpen-ing ms All Scratching-ing ms Bronze and Iron and Sister Tuval-Qayin Naamah Sweet and he will Say Lamekh Powerful to Woman s him Adah Ornament and Tsilah Shadow !fp Hear Voice me Woman s Lamekh Powerful !fp make Listen Speech me Given that Man i did Kill to Bruise me and Boy to Striped bruise me Given that Seventh time s2 he will make be Avenge Qayin Acquired and Lamekh Powerful Seven s and Seven and he will Know Human Yet again At Woman him and she will Bring forth Son and she will Call out at Title him Shet Buttocks Given that he did Set down to me Elohiym Powers Seed Other Under Hevel Empty Given that he did Kill him Qayin Acquired and to Shet Buttocks Also He had much be Bring forth Son and he will Call out At Title him Enosh Man At that time he did be made Pierce to Call out in Title YHWH He exists.
5:1 This Scroll Birthing s Human in Day Fatten Elohiym Powers Human in Likeness Elohiym Powers he did Do At him Male and Female he did Fatten them m and he will much Kneel at them m and he will Call out At Title them m Human in Day be [sic] Fatten them ....
* Flight over Norway 2013
A. Spoiler alert.
- Main areas of difference between transliteration(s) and mainstream current theology, roughly, or issues raised about other cultural concepts include Is patriarchy really called for, what is woman's role, is she a "wife" at all, and so on, was the deceiver a snake, was it a rib, is the first human gendered given Hebrew ascribing m or f to nouns as a class, in whose image is what.
- Add more: Mechanical Translation.org, shows "functional" as the criteria for success, not "good" or evil. It is functional - or not. Nothing "good." And the second Genesis Creation story is a birthing, a birth event, clearly female. The creating deity is not a (male) potter or a wordsmith.
- How can years be used as a time measure in a time when "years" is a later Western concept? No one site can do it all to everyone's satisfaction.
- This sets the stage for an jolly theological smack-down, does it not, where amateurs like at this site step aside, and experts hone in on the issues we raise.
B. Larger framework:
Even within a culture, there can be disagreements on meaning, leading to centuries of debate, persecutions of ideological rivals, whose version is really divinely ordained, and wars. Genesis 1-4, for example, contains not one but two creation stories, separate. Some religious groups reject the totality of either story, and blend their own new version from select portions of each. Re-narrate, re-interpret, to fit their own evolved theology. And the process continues: Tale, text, interpretation, conflict. To start here:
- Search for Mechanical Translation, and download; or use an online e-book: click on the PDF listed through the same search, with the address for its e-book identified as ://www.ancient-hebrew.org/bookstore/e-books/mtg.pdf.
- Read the introduction for information on Hebrew forms
- Linguistics, other. What did "subdue" mean back then? Is human food only green herbs, no meat? Is to "kneel" a matter of resting, as on the 7th day here, or more each time as after creating each species of Living including the human (no particular "respect"). And YHWH He exists only appears in the second story. First story is always Elohiym Powers. Was Qayin Acquired the first son of JHWH He exists Eloyihm Powers? conceived through what? purchased? bargained for? what gender supremacism? any? * Why do we tout capital punishment, when Quyin was not killed in retribution or deterrence. Unknowable? Is all surmise.
- Some other symbols are included to show that none of this is simple. Languages and early written forms do not pass smoothly one to another. Gaps get filled, things get left out, or re-interpreted, by those with agendas.
- At Mechanical Translation dot org, (MT here) the Hebrew is given as a unit above the transliteration, not word for word as at Scripture4all (S4A here). It is not hard, however, to identify individual words in MT, however, from the S4A.
- עזר כנגדו׃
- Helper, guide as in front of him, his counterpart, his opposite, helper, a help meet for him, equal to, what?